1 Aug 2004
Living dead
I am really pissed off, most people think I have lost it, I know have streaks of madness in me but they know apeshit about my streaks, what they are referring to is something else altogether, everybody I speak to (except for him, ofcourse we work together and he has a certificate to prove he's lost it) thinks that I am taking too much risk, some even want me never to meet them because the cops must be on my heels already and after eliminating me in an encounter will go after them because they were associated with a terrorist who was trying to understand and present the predicament of a community.
I am told by reliable sources it won't be very difficult to prove that I was actually involved with terrorist organizations intent on bombing poor civilians. Snoopy people cannot be tolerated and am curious as hell, comes naturally, allright I do get carried away and might learn more than I need to, but to be threatened with elimination?
For instance I recently discovered that we have an active cell in RAW which specializes in counter terrorism of a unique kind, after communal riots and large scale mayhem, the survivors are obviously smarting for revenge, what better time to identify the potential terrorists? The cell then swings into action, fanning out as recruiting agents for the various terrorist organizations looking for potential recruits, any one who's eager to avenge his sister's rape or mothers killing or is even sympathetic to the cause of revenge is identified and filed. Next time a chief minister is in trouble or an important promotion is round the corner a successful encounter will clinch the deal for you, the list of sympathizers is a ready reference just for such times.
Do I know too much already? Hmm probably not but I must watch my ears and remember to shut them before I find out too much. Well I was sharing this bit with an upstanding member of our society, an industrialist, a family friend and until a while ago someone I looked up to, he promptly shut his ears and told me not so subtly that if responsible people like him stand by me they risk harassment after my elimination. In other words my elimination is a foregone conclusion and I am making life difficult for other upstanding members of our society, I must think of a way to ensure that others don't get into trouble on my account he said sagely. He even added that others might not even want to meet me in their offices. Which world am I living in? Mr. Moore you are goddamned lucky u are an american, u can take bush's ass and mint millions, poor tejpal didn't know what hit him when he broke the defence scandal, poor guy, he went to sleep dreaming of glory...i am told hes survived and thats reassuring for the moment. yea right, I am not too practical, infact I am downright naive, but hell I don't know how else to live.
Current Mood: Worried
Current Music: chingari koi bhadke
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By Mayavi
1 Aug 2004, 10:52pm [ Reply ]
ahem. May be you are just crazy and live in your own fantasy world full of conspiracy theories and out of touch with reality.
These are the kind of theories which feed hatred.
By doesitmatter
1 Aug 2004, 11:52pm [ Reply ]
heheh, i would take you seriously if i wasnt making a documentary and interviewing real people. but i agree with you on theories feeding haterd but unfortunately i am still numb with some of the revelations. refer to pravin swamys three part series on ishrats encounter killing, a lwyer in gujarat was asked to make a call to javed on the behest of gujarat police. javed was a small time petty criminal but a convenient target for elimination, i can substantiate what i say mayavi, interested?
By doesitmatter
1 Aug 2004, 11:53pm [ Reply ]
pravin swamy writes for hindu, for your reference
By Mayavi
2 Aug 2004, 12:44am [ Reply ]
Last week (?) LeT has admitted that Isharat and her husband Javed worked for them and they were on a mission. This was conveniently ignored by all praveen swamis and praful bidwais.
If you remember there was a similar terrorrist shooting in Ansar plaza of Delhi. A doctor claimed that he saw police killing innocent people and placed guns in their hands - fake encounter and reams and reams were written about police excesses, fake encounters, human right voilations and inncoents being killed. The polie came up with evidence (traced the docs cell phone calls) that the doc was lying and was also accused/arrested in some other case. Again, the bidwais chose to ignore it. All conspiracy theories went down the drain.
I am not saying that the establishment is totally clean. There are people who take advantage of such riots to settle personal scores, but claiming that RAW is slotting people is a little far fetched. Counter-terrorrism cell is not a new idea, every intelligence agency has one. If you and I are safe and secure blogging and commenting here, its due to these internal security agencies. All it takes is one lapse for a mumbai bomb blast or a gujarat carnage (surely if the intelligence has known that burning train was pre planned, as admitted byt he maulvi of local masjid, the riots wouldnt have happened).
Will write later.
By Mayavi
2 Aug 2004, 12:46am [ Reply ]
Please excuse the typos, it difficult to write long sentences in this comment box.
By Mayavi
2 Aug 2004, 1:01am [ Reply ]
Please excuse the typos, it difficult to write long sentences in this comment box.
By doesitmatter
2 Aug 2004, 1:43am [ Reply ]
at the outset i agree that we are safe and secure because we have law enforcement agencies who ensure the safety of the common man at large. The forensic reports claim that it was impossible to burn the train by throwing petrol frmo outside, the investigations are still on to figure out some miraculous way in which the train could be burnt the way it did by throwing fuel from outside. As for maulvi admitting he was behind it, i'll take it with a pinch of salt, what i will accuse this said maulvi of is inciting the mobs to attack the karsevaks who were locked inside. The facts are stranger than fiction mayavi and i am not writing out some figment of my imagination, why dont we table the findings of the forensic department? Mumbra, Ishrats home is crawling with Intelligence officers in all shapes and guises, I have been there personally and am in the midst of opening channels of communication so i could get their views on the scenario. The said website, do i need to be LET to have a website in some obscure name, i could have it tomorrow if i wanted and write any thing i chose to, more importantly, terrorist organisations operate on idealogical grounds, they have a political agenda, if ishrat was truly a LET operative, would you admit it open if she failed in her mission, by doing so arent you compromising other operatives who might have links with ishrat, on the other hand if ishrat had succeeded in dpoing whatever she was scheming to do, they have scored a point, even if she died in the process they will be the first ones to admit, as it helps them score a point in the political game, there are many other facts, Intelligence agencies claim Ishrat was under survelliance for 6 months, why dont they reveal the proof they have gathered against her that establishes her as terrorist beyond reasonable doubt? Why are all the proofs that have been presented to the press so far the ones that were gathered after her killing, all they need to do is open their files aint it? info is already available. Most important of all, I am not trying to prove ishrat was innocent, though having seen things first hand i am inclined to believe she was not a terrorist. Aran you might throw some light on this, what would be a psychological profile of some one who is suceptible to self destruction? Would she be applying for a scolarship two days before departing on a mission to eliminate the chief minister of Gujarat? If anything she was in need of money and i suspect she was involved with javed because he was supporting them with money, i suspect her mother and sister knew of this but are hiding it because admniting to truth might take away fromt hem the sympathy they now have, her image of a innocent girl will be tarnished, javed was a married man and muslims wont accept this truth that ishrat might have had a relationshipe with a married man. Javed was a small time arms dealer who dealt with hand made guns from uttar pradesh and cops had been eying him for a lnog time, ishrat just happened to be in the wrong place with a wrong man. I i start writing out everything all the information i have been gathering i'll have to do a full fledged report, suffice to say everything is not as it appears, encounters are now a game, you keep scores and you play to win the medals, that is not law enforcement, something is seriously going wrong and some one needs to say it, if dissidence is quelled and worse still silenced then you are head to lawlessness of a different kind, i havent arrived at a judgement, but some things that have come to my notice have definitely set me thinking. Lets reflect
By doesitmatter
2 Aug 2004, 1:56am [ Reply ]
damn, my reply is longer than my post, absolute lack of continuity and glaring typos, pardon.
By doesitmatter
2 Aug 2004, 1:57am [ Reply ]
at the outset i agree that we are safe and secure because we have law enforcement agencies who ensure the safety of the common man at large. The forensic reports claim that it was impossible to burn the train by throwing petrol frmo outside, the investigations are still on to figure out some miraculous way in which the train could be burnt the way it did by throwing fuel from outside. As for maulvi admitting he was behind it, i'll take it with a pinch of salt, what i will accuse this said maulvi of is inciting the mobs to attack the karsevaks who were locked inside. The facts are stranger than fiction mayavi and i am not writing out some figment of my imagination, why dont we table the findings of the forensic department? Mumbra, Ishrats home is crawling with Intelligence officers in all shapes and guises, I have been there personally and am in the midst of opening channels of communication so i could get their views on the scenario. The said website, do i need to be LET to have a website in some obscure name, i could have it tomorrow if i wanted and write any thing i chose to, more importantly, terrorist organisations operate on idealogical grounds, they have a political agenda, if ishrat was truly a LET operative, would you admit it open if she failed in her mission, by doing so arent you compromising other operatives who might have links with ishrat, on the other hand if ishrat had succeeded in dpoing whatever she was scheming to do, they have scored a point, even if she died in the process they will be the first ones to admit, as it helps them score a point in the political game, there are many other facts, Intelligence agencies claim Ishrat was under survelliance for 6 months, why dont they reveal the proof they have gathered against her that establishes her as terrorist beyond reasonable doubt? Why are all the proofs that have been presented to the press so far the ones that were gathered after her killing, all they need to do is open their files aint it? info is already available. Most important of all, I am not trying to prove ishrat was innocent, though having seen things first hand i am inclined to believe she was not a terrorist. Aran you might throw some light on this, what would be a psychological profile of some one who is suceptible to self destruction? Would she be applying for a scolarship two days before departing on a mission to eliminate the chief minister of Gujarat? If anything she was in need of money and i suspect she was involved with javed because he was supporting them with money, i suspect her mother and sister knew of this but are hiding it because admniting to truth might take away fromt hem the sympathy they now have, her image of a innocent girl will be tarnished, javed was a married man and muslims wont accept this truth that ishrat might have had a relationshipe with a married man. Javed was a small time arms dealer who dealt with hand made guns from uttar pradesh and cops had been eying him for a lnog time, ishrat just happened to be in the wrong place with a wrong man. I i start writing out everything all the information i have been gathering i'll have to do a full fledged report, suffice to say everything is not as it appears, encounters are now a game, you keep scores and you play to win the medals, that is not law enforcement, something is seriously going wrong and some one needs to say it, if dissidence is quelled and worse still silenced then you are head to lawlessness of a different kind, i havent arrived at a judgement, but some things that have come to my notice have definitely set me thinking. Lets reflect
By Mayavi
2 Aug 2004, 2:41am [ Reply ]
Terrorists operate on idealogical grounds? I dont think so. They operate on religious grounds, not any idealogy.
You said LeT may not be stupid enough to give away otehr operatives identities by owning up Isharat, then how do you expect police to open files and give away their operative, as their moles have deeply infiltrated such organizations?
You are 'inclined' to beieve that Isharat, being educated and all, may not be a terrorrist, but if you see the list of terrorists and terrorrism masterminds, most of them are highly educated people who are misguided, esp true in case of Indians.
I request you to take this discussion to FH discussion boars, where it is eaier to post quoting each other and others will join too. I am very interested in learning about your experiences.
By doesitmatter
2 Aug 2004, 12:00pm [ Reply ]
i am not asking the cops to give away their moles, but disclose proofs against Ishrat that they have been gathering over a duration of six months, religion is idealogy too mayavi so. I am not inclined to believe ishrat is innocent because she was educated, on the otherhand she might be innocent because she was greedy and was looking forward to a life of comfort, that is something terrorists dont look forward to, they are prepared to die for their cause, especially when you are as young as ishrat and are as low down in the hierarchy of an organisation as her, the only thing that can move one at that age is idealogy and once i am sold i am prepared to die, when i am prepared t die, my actions will all point to that single fact that i dont care about material comforts or benefits, yes i'll post something appropriate on discussion boards, but reflect on this mayavi, if law enforcement agencies start to breach law rampantly are we then not headed to lawlessness of another kind, should critisism be stiffled or silenced, why was tarun tejapal reduced to bankruptcy, what happened to those who were guilty of accepting bribes while making decisions about the defence purchases of our nation? Arent these pointers to a dangerous situation arising? everyone tells me tarun survived because he was well connected and has backing, which i ofcourse lack, should i then be scared shitless? for what? if you have nothing to hide, then why fear investigation?
By Aran
25 Aug 2004, 5:09pm [ Reply ]
Nice to see that your blog's back on track. :)